1960 Ford Thunderbird #65
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY>>> 100% TOTAL TRANSPARENCY and For Sale by Private Seller is my 1960 Thunderbird power Top Convertible.with all Options that were available except larger motor I recall.not available with AC. I bought this off ebay 2 and a half years ago The seller was not as open as I will be and Told me its great etc etc and altho not a Concours de lux show car it was still a great driver.!!! yeah Right !!! It is a kool looking beast and looks great from a few feet away but definitely not perfect by any means.. Paid $25,000 and put $1000 more in it .yet it still needs more..time and $ than I have to deal with at the present..Starting bid at 50% so you can use that savings to improve this Great Piece of motor Classic History Im not a slippery used car salesman etc stating do Not expect the new car Experience.etc etc .. LOL well DUH darn things 57 years old..so of course not.. So hear comes The Good The Bad and The Ugly so Ill tell ya straight up as I dont want the potential buyer to get any surprises like I did and also any that I can predict or have experienced. You DESERVE to know what yer getting I have no problems with any inspection at your expense tho PRIOR to the sale Nothing to hide but do not want any one disappointed or upset or feel they got ripped off like I did !!!Original Raven Black has been resprayed in the past a decent job but Still has chips at edges and small scratches in many places and also a soft dent ( shown in a pic) that the Transport Driver put in the Drivers door and denied he did it.. Easy to correct.. Red Leather interior appears original and appears redyed.Dash is original and not redyed??.Foam from seats leaves crumbles on the floor but still feel comfy. both drivers and Passenger Buckets work fine with power option on both.Two Ignition keys . Cigar Lighter works fine.Odometer showed 90,100 when I got it and now its 90,600 + may be 190,600 or 290,600? but probably correct at 90,600+ Wipers are Vacuum driven originals and original small size from factory and rubbers only fair and working condition is they sux as expected ...If you are on the gas pedal too much vacuum is diverted away from the wipers They are OK if LIGHT Rain only.. Need rebuild or electric conversion.OR dont drive if Raining hahah..Clock NOT running needs rebuild. All Lights including map light turn signals horns back up lights hi beams Interior lights working. as well as licence plate twin lights and back up lights at last inspection... Interior dash lights from Light Pull out Switch do not dim by rotation and only are full on.or off position Parking Lights are fine Green Turn Signal Indicators are hard to see in the daylight but easier at night time.Stock Motor runs strong and equally well from both exhaust pipes the sounds are decent and smooth... appears to be the original 352 but I never verified Its possible its a 390 and it had the 390 Embossed THUNDERBIRD valve covers on it so? not sure I swapped them to correct Yellow Ford Covers. the Red wrong covers didnt leak oil BUT with the replacement OEM Yellow FORD embossed Covers now leak a bit of oil when running and need gasket sealant or better fitting gaskets to correct.I replaced The battery in July 2015 and a New fuel Pump and in liner Clear Filter and replaced the failing Generator with a correct Rebuilt Ford Thunderbird one, replaced stop brake light switch and Starter Relay also. The OEM AM only Radio was Tube and never worked Replaced with Newer AM/FM stereo that works fine/ Replaced Console speaker with a 2 speaker stereo as if it makes a diff as so small a space in the armrest where speaker is but its newer anyhow. Replaced Front Fender antenna. Drum Brakes seem fine with wear and stop it OK BUT hissing noise when power booster is used more than a slight stop so Power Booster under dash should be rebuilt..as I feel brakes are more manual than modern power.//Power steering is fine on the highway but hard to use in tight turns and parking so needs rebuild as its more like manual than modern power steering to me.Id say it drives more like a Cruise Ship or a semi LOL NOT a new CAR!!! Front End supposedly had many new parts BUT I think it needs more as I hear a clunk in a sharp turn on occasion.Some minor Leaks under car from tranny same with Oil pan as expected...etc etc but not horrible. Gas Cap replaced with locking one. Exhaust system at rear seems newer. Chrome on outside like Front and Rear Bumper Decent shiney but not perfectInside most if not all parts trim that are metal have some slight to moderate corrosion and pitting all trim..Door panels may be resprayed Rubber gaskets at vent windows are brittle and chipped in places All GLASS seems OEM including Windshield but not sure about that It is older so?? unsure This factory leather INTERIOR is Different than the NON leather ones that have Tufts and Buttons But is CORRECT for the Leather Models. Doors do NOT lock with the key..Driver door panel need a few screws to tighten it to Metal Door Panel Passenger door latches and opens closes fine BUT drivers door wont latch always UNLESS you pull the inside drivers opening handle inside up n down and or the Lock Button inside door panel at top front then it shuts OK.Needs to be worked on... All Power window work correctly EXCEPT the passenger quarter small window on drivers side. It was OK then when put down would not come up for months of trying Only heard the motor whine...Then all of a sudden months later I tried and it came up where I left it as Im concerned if it goes down again it wont return... Its loose in its channel now but Up. The Motor seems OK so I think its off its Tracks?/ needs work.Power top has newer pump and some of the Deck cylinders and or Top cylinders have been replaced. The Top Control Relays are original sitting by the Newer pump ..Top Goes from Closed to open just fine .. On occasion when top is down inside the trunk it wouldnt erect if trunk lid was locked down all the way A simple Bump with my fist near the Front of the Trunk area Drivers Side Corner near the Lock mechanism corner WHILE the Top control switch is pushed forward in vehicle to erect position got it going . Switch was spring loaded but will usually stay in erect or close position till you move it to neutral. Top Fabrics OK but Clear rear window a bit Hazed but still ya can see out it. Top Mechanism seems to be able to stop anytime in its cycle as it should if ya wish to stop at any point and also reverse any time with the exception I discussed ...A Microswitch on the Trunk Lid or Package may need adjustment Trunk Mats replaced a year ago Spare Tires a Narrow White Wall good tread with black Steel Rim.. Jack and Lug wrench there. WHEELS are NOT the ones that came in 1960 but Later years option at Ford the 4 REAL WIRE WHEELS Thunderbird Logo Wide White Walls with lots of tread as does the spare also.No rear seat belts and two newer Red ones at Front ...Carpets OK and two worn red rubber Thunderbird Front floor Mats.. Glove Box lock is NOT functional with a key but latches open and close.. NO interior light is in the Glove Box.. NO windshield Washer system is left as some one removed all of the rube-goldberg crummy type system but the switch on drivers side... and system never worked well anyhow.I was told there was NO bondo on any of the all metal panels however I only checked with a magnet most of the car and dont think theres any but no promises..Fender Skirts are Original as far as I can Tell No major rust anywhere that I can see but a small area here and there bit in crevices ..Rear Metal 3 piece Trim Hash Marks need tightening on Passenger side a few are not real tightscrews stripped? Drivers side outside mirror looks OEM Inside Rearview mirror was so bad ya couldnt see out of it so replaced with Correct Repo day Nite Mirror..All spark Plugs and spark plud and coil wires were replaced as well as the Coil with Correct Mustard Color Repo TBird coilThe Carb is a later Holly and Starts fine as long as used daily If it sits A LONG TIME THOUGH its harder to start.. Will stumble if you accelerate too fast before warmed up so I suggest going over the carb.. IS an ORIGINAL AC car but previous owners removed original Compressor and lines and Evaporator etc and USED the SYSTEM from Ezee Cool I think that T-BIRD people use to make a non Factory AC car get AC Thus past owner converted the system to newer rotary compressor and added electric cooling fans to the radiator AC works fairly well but dont expect miracles. The factory lower dash AC Pull knobs no longer function and now Turning the fan blower switch from off to low or high turns AC on if Top Levers in KOOL position vs Heat all in all not bad Papers talking about this from AC Aftermarket company included with as much paper work as I can find along with falling apart but readable Orig owners manual and Factory Repair maintanace Generic 1960 FORD Manual included.. Defroster blows only fair I think the Newer Corrugated tubes may be squished as also left AC blows better than the right half out of the original AC Middle Vent. Also there are a few smaller vents added by the system under the dash but They need the tubes un squsised as air flows only minimal there as same with defroster I think.. Heat works fine and theres a added shut off and on valve at the Heater Hose for stopping hot coolant flow in the Summer months. Battery Cut off switch was added as well as new Battery Cable to it.Parking Brake seems to hold firmly. Gas Opening by Trunk lid License Plate is weak needs attention stay shut but is weak. Top when CLOSED does NOT 100% meet the Side windows when completely on postion as shown in pic.. needs adjustment. Hood Insulation is flaking apart needs removal and also was not orig from factory anyhow. Hood Release switch says Hood but may be from an Edsel? Engine Hood wouldnt latch till I corrected it It needs a good stiff pull and opens fine then and closes stays shut fine.Some one painted the White Steering Wheel incorrectly red that needs a cosmetic redo. Newer Turn signal lever as old was way pitted a few White knobs also replaced on the ControlsGas tank was supposedly removed and cleaned and sealed I have no way to verify Fuel Guage seems to be approriately correct.. Transmission is also working fine but shifter is sloppy a little when putting in drive 1 or drive 2 etc Reverse and Neutral and Park are fine as long as shifter is in close to correct spot on column. as all these are all known for.. Tranny was supposedly rebuilt not long ago Color fluid is OK Redish. Newer air Filter and oil filter a year ago.Shift Switch under Steering column was replaced with NOS unit as last guy had an alligator clip on one of the wires!!Engine Belts one newer and others seem OK ... EXPANSION Tank off Motor before the Radiator had a major leak when I first got car so I replaced it with Repo Correct Tank a total of 3 different Xs and they all still leaked a little bit of coolant spray when hot . still Even tried soldering the top seam Still leaks a bit of coolant when fully hot so another tank ?? or maybe the Radiator Cap is defective raising the pressure?..Hot Temp Guage seems to work fine .Generator Indicator Light Seems to work fine when turning on or off the engine..but I havent seen the Oil Indicator Light come on lately upon start or turn off ?? not sure if bulb is out ?? or the sender ? But Oil levels fine.so this area Needs help. All in all a Fun Car to show off and drive play with and fix up... Ive never gotton stranded anywhere but have never gone more than a hundred miles Ive put about 600 miles on it in 2.5 years Lots of compliments etc as fun to own and TINKER with BUT not 100% TURNKEY FUN FREE>> Get ready to work on this to improve it. ASK all ?s in case I forgot anything Please bid or offer ONLY if Serious I need a Non refundable paypal Deposit in 24 hours or Ill go to underbidder. Cash or any Check is fine BUT will need to clear before release of Auto .. Wire transfer is fastest NO RETURNS ..... obviously ........Ive been 100% Honest as I can be ASK ?s in case I missed something please. I want the new owner to be satisfied BUT this is an OLD CAR with many Good Points BUT also unknown future possible needs ONLY BID what you feel is appropriate please. I need an assurance that you WILL follow thru Once All Payments are clear I will send OVERNITE with SIGNATURE required the Title and Bill of Sale Not filled out as to miles or sales price that you can do what ya want with and one of the 2 keys The Owners Manual / Factory Ford manual and one key will stay with the car Till Picked Up by you or transporter that you will need to arrange Please see car is removed within a few weeks But Ill need Final payment in a week at most Please ONLY BID IF you can follow thru..I have CHANGED the pic of the side view where top meets windows and replaced with a Front and Rear View of Undercarriage this car has been in the Denver Area 2.5 years and Came from Tampa FLA where it spent a few years stored in last owners garage before I bought it I see only minor Rust in a few spots where any black paint or coating has flaked off.at door jams hood underneath Trunk lip Bottom of frame etc If there are any major repairs I cant see eveidence of them..Ask any and ALL ?s If I know Ill tell ya and if I dont Ill see what I can discover Car has 2 older Thunderbird Club decals so at one time a previous owner was more into it than me but probably let it go after not enough work on it..THANKS and Have FUN!!!!!!!!!No bids? Ill change the ask till I get some..