Rare Special Order ZL-1 427 Camaro Rally Sport

1969 Chevrolet Camaro ZL-1

per e-bay this car will be built in 30 Days You have always wanted to “Step Back in Time” and Order “Your” ZL-1 or Yenko. COPO. nbsp; or Baldwin Motion Camaro. "Now You Can!!!". I can Build them Better. Stronger. Faster and they Run on Pump Gas. Plus Street able!Technology has come alone way since 1969. I have also built some ZL-1's. COPO's and Yenko's for guys that have given up on their search for their Original COPO Camaro. Or if they found their “Original COPO” the New owner wants $450. 000. 00 for these Rare Camaro's. They now just send me their Original Pictures of their COPO or Yenko and I Build it. but now they are Better. Stronger. Faster. I do use ZL-1 all Aluminium 427 Engines or 1969 Dated Cast Iron 427 Motors for the Yenkos. If you have Your “Dream Camaro”Stuck in Your Head. I can Build it. The Muscle Cars did "Real Good" at Barrett-Jackson and Mecum Auction this weekend. Barrett Prices were Very High!!! Proving Muscle Cars are Still “Great Investments” and you can also have Fun with them. :)A 1969 Black and Gold RS ZL-1 Camaro like I build. bid to $80. 00. 00 and the Owner would not lift his Reserve. A Real 1969 ZL-1 sold for $400. 000. 00A 1967 Yenko sold for $275. 00. 00 I have Built a lot of 1967 thru 1969 Yenko Replicas. The Owner of Mecum Auctions does have one of my Camaro's in his Collection“Hot Rod TV” did a 30 minute Interview with me on Saturday for their TV ShowThey Filmed myself and my 1969 Black and Gold ZL-1 Camaro. They also Filmed some Rare ZL-1 Camaro Documents and some ZL-1 Blue Prints I have. Please see the Pictures of the “Camera Crew” and myself with the Producer next to me. When I talked to the Producer he said the Show will be seen on TV in May and also in July. I am also in the June and July issue of Hot Rod Magazine. They Latter did a Commercial with me and my 1969 ZL-1 Camaro for Lincoln College Technology. Lincoln is a Sponsor for Hot Rod TV and the Commercials will be shown in Colorado. These are Pictures of the Famous Fred Gibb. Dick Harrell 1969 ZL-1 Camaro Race Car. It was the Very First ZL-1 delivered to Fred Gibb Chevrolet in 1969 and then turned into this Race Car. It beat the Famous "Sox & Martin Hemi Cuda" that had Dominated the Race Circuit! The Fred Gibb ZL-1 also set a record of 9. 63 seconds at 143 mph and also Won the Pro Stock World Championship. Fred Gibb had to order 50 ZL-1s to be built to Qualify the Camaro to Race in NHRA. There was always a Mystery about the ZL-1 Camaros. Not much Information was known. In 1981 were it not for the Curiosity of "Bill Porterfield" and his Persistence in Finding Information on the 1969 ZL-1 Camaros. I believe the ZL-1 Camaro would have been Lost in History. Bill Porterfield Contacted Key people from Vince Piggins at Chevrolet. to Fred Gibb Dealership that ordered the first 50 ZL-1 Camaro's. Fred Gibb was key in Creating the ZL-1 Camaro!!! He knew a lot of information on these Special Camaro's. Bill has acquired a Substantial amount of Engineering Documents concerning these Camaros and the ZL-1 Aluminum 427 engine's. Bill Porterfield is also Credited for Finding a lot of Chevy Documents and Information from Chevy on these Rare 1969 ZL-1 Camaros. The Public did not know much on these Rare ZL-1 427 Muscle Cars. I got these Pictures for my Birthday from Bill Porterfield who owned this Very Special 69 ZL-1 Camaro Race Car. A ZL-1 427 Camaro is like owning a "Z28 that is on Steroids"!!! These cars are "Scary Fast" and if all that Power does not put a "Smile on Your Face" then you are Obviously Dead. :) My Motors are from the Original ZL-1 tooling that was found in 1997 I have close to $20. 00. 00 in (My Special all Aluminum ZL-1 427 Engines) and my motors have Incredible Horse Power and Torque. 539 Pounds of Torque at 2700 RPM Can be Street Driven (Runs on Pump Gas) with an average Temp of 185 on the gauge. :) Perfect Time for me to take Orders on Your Dream Muscle Car Camaro . "The 1969 ZL-1 Camaro" If you have Ordered a 2014 ZL-1 Camaro. I can build you a 1969 ZL-1 Camaro to Match your 2014 ZL-1 Okay Guys. YOU saved your Money for the Barrett-Jackson Auction. Why Spend "YOUR” Money on YOUR Dream Car that someone else has Already built to "Their Likes or Taste". It's "YOUR MONEY". Let me build it "YOUR WAY" and Paint the Color YOU Always Wanted. YOU Choose the Interior Color YOU Always Wanted! You Love Houndstooth Great. You Hate Houndstooth. we go Deluxe Comfortweave or even Standard Interior. You always wanted a 4 Speed so YOU can Melt The Tires!!!! Great. I will Build it! Your Tired of Shifting. Then a Turbo 400 it is. You can Still Melt the Tires!! It's an Aluminum 427 ZL-1 Motor!!!! You want Air Conditioning because you Live in AZ or CA. Then "Vintage Air" Air Conditioning Gets Installed. You want to Drive it on the Highway. than 355 Gears gets installed. You Want to "Smoke" the New Ford Mustang Cobra sitting next to You. then it's 410 Posi and Bye Bye Mustang!!! It's YOUR Dream Car… Let me Build it “YOUR WAY” There is a Real 1969 ZL-1 Camaro on E-Bay for sale. item number 380288722726This is a “Incredible Camaro” and is Worth More that the $400. 00. 00 that is already bid!!! Who Can afford this kind of Money. But The "Rich and Famous"???I Build ZL-1 Replicas so that “Normal Car Guys” can Live the same Dream as the "Rich and Famous" of Owning the “King of the Muscle Cars” The Legendary 1969 ZL-1 CamaroThe King of the Hill was the Legendary 426 Hemi Cuda of the Sox and Martin Race TeamThen along came (The 1969 ZL-1 Camaro) and Took the NHRA Crown in 1969 The ZL-1 Camaro Legend was Born!!! ”Live The Legend” The Ultimate Dream Muscle Car!!! (Please Look at My "Mirror Reflections" in my Paint Jobs) My ZL-1 427 Motors at 2700 RPM are puting out 539 in Torque!!! You will get the Dyno Sheets. 2700 RPM is were you are Driving the Camaro the most. Low RPMs That is "Seat of Your Pants" Torque!!! The Lemans Blue with White Stripes on the Trailer is a Special ZL-1 with Dealer Installed Stripes. (Please see picture of Brochure selling on ) They also made Die-Cast Models of that LeMans Blue ZL-1 There is an Original ZL-1 on E-Bay for $500. 00. 00 Item #200427775680 This ZL-1 (Does Not) have it’s Original Motor or any of the Original Drive Train. It also is a “Plain Jane” with No Options…and did I say $500. 00. 00 I do respect that it is a Real ZL-1 but how many people do you know who can afford it?? That is why I Build these Replicas…People Can Afford my ZL-1s and not have to Higher an Armed Guard to Watch over it. :) These Camaros were made to be Driven. also taken to Car Shows and to bring back Your Younger Days of Cruising!!! Not Stuck in a Collection Gathering Dust. This Rare Muscle Car in this Auction is being built as a Correct Replica of a 1969 ZL-1 Camaro. It will be as Close as you can Get to a Real ZL-1 with out Spending “$1 Million Dollars” for an Original 1969 ZL-1 Camaro. Put this ZL-1 Replica Side by Side of an Original and it would be Hard to Tell the Difference. (Except My ZL-1 has More Horse Power and Torque)… and it will be more "Streetable"! I have shown Pictures of past ZL-1 Camaros I have Built. so you can see the Detail I take in doing a Paint Job and building a Camaro the Correct Way. I Supply a "Real 1969 Camaro" and I Build it the way "You" would have Ordered a “Muscle Car” from GM Yourself in 1969. (You Have Always Wanted to Go “Back In Time” and Order a ZL-1 Camaro the way “You Wanted it. ”). (Now You Can)!!! :) Primary Purpose of the ZL-1 427 Engine was to provide an All Out Race Motor to the General Public. with a Significant Weight Reduction compared to an All Iron 427 Motor. The ZL-1 also had (Aluminum Heads and Intake) compared to Iron Heads and Intake. So you can see that the "Weight Savings" was not just in the Block Alone. Remember in the Race World. Every 2 Pounds Saved is like (Gaining 1 in Horse Power. ) The ZL-1 Aluminum Big Blocks Weight was the same as a "1969 Z28" Small Block. so the ZL-1 would Corner and Brake like a 1969 Z28. The 1969 Z28 Dominated SCCA Racing that Year and Won the Title for 1968 and 1969. Most of that had to do with the way the 1969 Z28 could Corner and Brake. Your Normal Big Block Camaro was "Front End Heavy" for Cornering and Did Not Stop as well as the 1969 Z28 Camaro. The ZL-1 Engine was a By-Product of Can–Am Racing Technology. The ZL-1 Camaro Represented the "Best" of Chevrolets Research and Development. For Years a Cloud of Secrecy and Lack of knowledge has surrounded these Incredible Muscle Cars. The ZL-1 Camaro is the “Ultimate Factory Muscle Car” to come out of Chevrolet. For Chevrolet Motor Division. the ZL-1 Camaro was their "Crown Jewel. " Even though Chevrolet was not in the business of Building Race Cars. (these ZL-1’s are the Epitome of Chevy’s Factory Race Cars. ) The Block is a new ZL-1 427 Block made from the (Original) ZL-1 Molds. The Original 1969 ZL-1 Mold was found in 1997 buy a Chevrolet Engineer when the Winters Foundry was getting rid of Molds they were not using any more. He then Pushed Chevy to make these ZL-1 427 engines again in "Limited Quantities. " This Same Engineer did the "Up Dating" on the New ZL-1 Blocks. I have talked to this now Retired Engineer (Very Nice guy to talk to) and thanked him for bringing back these "Legendary ZL-1 427 Motors. " This Block will be a [Collectors Item] because of the “Limited” Quantities Made. These new ZL-1 Blocks have "Today’s Technology in Aluminum" and the Oil and Water passages have been Increased in Size for Better Oiling and Cooling. These new ZL-1 blocks are "By Far a Superior Block" than the 1969 ZL-1 Blocks. The 1969 ZL-1 Motor had the Largest Factory Holley Carburetor 850 cfm installed on a Production Chevrolet. List# 4296 The Correct Holley 850 cfm Carburetor List #4296 will be used. The Intake is the Correct 3933198 and has (TR) Washer Style Bolts. The Heads are the Correct #3946074. The Correct Dot Rods will be used. Correct Exhaust Manifolds. Light Weight GM Fly Wheel. (Lets the Motor Rap Quicker) Correct Bell Housing. Correct Deep Grove Pulleys. Correct 8 Inch Balancer. Correct Dated Spark Plug Wires. Correct GM Hoses with Part Numbers. Correct Tower Clamps. Correct Spring Ring Battery Cables. Correct Curved Neck Radiator. Etc. Etc The Engine will be a Complete Rebuild and Balanced at a High End Shop that does a lot of the Race Cars for Colorado. Break-in on the ZL-1 427 Motor will be done on a Dyno. I will have Dyno sheets. The Motor will be over 500 hp “Depending on what Cam You want” also Tons of Torque and will be Very Street Able. The Camaro will be taken down to a Bare Shell and Professionally Plastic Media Blasted by one of the Best Shops in Denver. It will be Media Blasted Top to Bottom. Out Side to Inside. Including: Firewall. Floor Pans. Trunk Pans. Dash. Sub frame Rear Frame Rails. (See Pictures) I can also make this a Vinyl Top car. Your Choice. COPO ZL-1's have no Stripes and a Vinyl Top Camaro helps break up the Colors. I built a Hugger Orange RS ZL-1 Replica and it was just too much Orange. Once I added the Black Vinyl Top. the Camaro Looked So Much Better. This Muscle Car will be New or Rebuilt from One End to the Other. Every Nut. Bolt. Wiring Harness has been taken off of this car. Everything wil be New or Rebuilt. Form one end to the other New Parts Include: Complete Interior. door panels. rear side panels. seats. seat foam. headliner. sun visors. dash pad. rear package shelf. carpet. pillar post moldings. door sill plates. door fuzzies. complete weather stripping kit. door handles. door jamb vent grilles. wiper arms. wiper motor. washer jar. fuel pump to carb lines. correct Y block carb lines. complete. front end rebuild kit. suspension bushings. coil springs. shocks. motor mounts. trany mounts. leaf springs. tie rods. ball joints. pitman arm. sub frame was sandblasted. brakes. brake hardware kits. brake lines. hoses. Brake Booster and Master Cylinder. all correct cadmium plating done. emergency brake cables. curved neck COPO radiator. fan shroud. Big Block heater core. blower motor. GM hoses with part numbers. correct tower clamps. belts. all electrical switches. complete under hood engine harness. starter. alternator. voltage regulator. horn relay. rebuilt distributor. 1-Q-69 spark plug wires. spring ring battery cables. parking lights and side markers. housings and lenses. tail light harness. tail light lenses. stainless trim. roof drip moldings. vinyl top and moldings. rocker moldings. quarter panel side louvers. emblems. beauty rings and caps for rally wheels. tires. valve covers. cowl induction air cleaner. all pedal pads and chrome. power steering hoses. clutch. pressure plate and throw out bearing. decals. emblems Etc Etc. This Camaro will be Painted to correct factory colors top to bottom. Underneath of the car will be on a Rotisserie and taken to Bare Metal and then Painted. It will have New Gas Lines. Brake Lines. Hoses. Clips. Exhaust. Shocks. Leaf Springs. Gas Tank and Fuel Tank Sender. It will have a single gas line with no return line which is correct for a ZL-1 Camaro. 12 Bolt Rear End Sand Blasted. New Brakes. Hoses Hardware Kit and Cad Plating Done. Two “Special” ZL-1s were made for the "Show Car Circuit" to help Chevrolet Sales in 1969. They were Black with Gold Z28 Strips. These “Special" ZL-1 Camaros had ZL-1 Emblems on the Front Grille. Rear Tail Light Panel and Hood to Promote the ZL-1 427 Motors. I have had the ZL-1 Emblems Reproduced for this Replica I am Building. These Emblems are Reproduced (At High Expense) to the Specs of the Two Show Cars off of Old 1969 Photos and Blue Prints. A Lot of Research was done to make these Emblems as Close as Possible. I have the GM Blue Prints Dated 1969 for the ZL-1 Emblems. I Will Not make any of these Emblems for sale . so Don’t Ask. I have been Playing with and Restoring Camaros for 29 Years. My Name. Camaro and my Documents are in the Jerry MacNeish Book “The Definitive 1969 Camaro Fact Book“ and John Hoopers Book “The 1969 Camaro Reference Book. My Name is also on Wayne Guinns Web Site for Finding Prototype ZL-1 Blocks and Prototype Cross Rams and I will also be in his updated Book “Camaro Untold Secrets. ” My Price will Beat Any Barrett-Jackson Prices and NO Commissions. I also Start Out with a Nice Real 1969 Camaro Body so you know what you are getting. "I Will Build The Muscle Car of Your Dreams". For the guys who like Pro Street or a Ride Like the 2010 Camaros. I can use a Chris Alston Sub frame that just “bolts in” (Please see Pictures of subframe and ZL-1 Motor. ) This ZL-1 Camaro will be a Muscle Car you will be Proud to Pass Down to your Son or Daughter. My Camaro’s are Built to Last! These Muscle Cars are "Better than any Stocks in Value or 401Ks" and you Can Take Them Out and "Play" With Them! There is no Better way to "Relive your Youth" than by Driving a 1969 Camaro from your Younger Days. Car Shows are now more for the "Family" and it is also the best way to meet New Car Guys. Plus you will Always get the Thumbs Up by everybody when you are Cruising in Your New Dream Camaro!!! I also Build Yenko and COPO Replicas!! Any Questions just E-Mail me or call my Cell. ( 303-808-9096 ) Please Look at my other Auctions Q: i noticed a green one you have pictured. its very nice :) im not sure what has been done to it but how much would something like that cost me?Dec-01-14A: The Green Camaro was a Pro-Touring Camaro. So way to much was done to that Camaro. Plus a 572-720hp GM Crate Motor That Camaro would go Side-Ways at 60 MPH. Call my cell and we will talk Price. Q: I am very interested in purchasing a Camaro similar to the one on the model on the left of your ad the ZL1. this is the exact color combo I desire the interior options we can discuss. Let me know a ballpark of this car and one like it with a regular big block that you use. A ZL1 motor may be a little out of my price range but we will see. let me know how we can hook up or I can give you my Cell if you like. Billy Okla City Dec-02-14A: Hello Send me your cell or you can call mine and we can talk Options and Price. Spencer 303-808-9096Q: Just a comment. last year I visited your shop and appreciated the time you took to show me around the several builds you had going on. introduced me to your mechanic and then showed me a new ZL1 block. I liked your original equipment mentality and the flexibility to add and take away as a customer would like. When they are around the ZL1 is always one of the highlights at shows because there are so few of them. Hopefully. one of these days I'll call and put in my order for a dark green. bug eyed. heater/radio delete. hooker super comp. M22. traction master 10 second machine. Keep up the good work. Dec-02-14A: Hello again and Thanks. It seems that Everybody has their "Dream Muscle Car" stuck in their Head and I Love making that Dream Come True. :) And then Test Driving it also. :) Just give me a call when you are ready. Q: Really enjoyed reading about your shop and operation. Your camaro's sound 2nd to none. It is great there are people like you who keep interest of these cars in the hobby in the forefront for next generation. hell the 69 camaro body style was decades ahead of it's time anyway. just wanted to say how I admired your work and business. I have a job I truely hate to go to each and every day. to me your job is like winning the lottery. I realize you work hard and have rough days but it is still in the realm of what you love to do. Best wishes to you and your crew for 2014! Chris GarrettDec-04-14A: Thanks for your Nice Comments. :) We do Love our Jobs at my Shop and it Shows in our work. If you Love your Job. You will take Pride in it and do it Correctly because it is your Name that goes into building each Camaro. Best Wishes for you also for 2014 And if I did Win the Lottery. I would still be Building Camaro's. :) Q: Is the ZL-1 Built? Can I visit your shop to see your work before committing to build? Dec-04-14 A: Good Morning. They are Built to Customers Specs. Yes you can come to my shop to see the Camaros already in process of there build. I have from "Bare Metal Bodies" to Ready to Ship Running Camaros. 98 percent of the people that "Fly in". have bought one of my Camaros. The other 2 percent. the Wives said no. lol Q: good afternoon. the ZL1's can be equipped with 4 wheel disc to stop this monster correct? also can the 4 speed be upgraded to the M22 rockcrusher? Given the fact that Le Mans blue with either white or black interior suits the ladies what exterior emblems are the most pleasing 427 at fron quarter panels with SS emblems elseware? i know you are asked these question many times but obviously if a person is "hand picking" out everything these are question i have. i know you are busy. Thank. for your time. By the way i owned a 69 Z lemans blue/white interior and yes the ladies loved it. i can't imagine what a 69 with a ZL1 would feel like thank's steve Dec-05-14 A: Good Morning Yes I can do Four Wheel Disc Brakes. I can also do M-22 4-Speed Trans. I prefer the ZL-1 Emblems on the Camaro so people know you have a "Ultra Rare all Aluminum 427" under the hood. I do Like LeMans Blue Paint Best on a ZL-1 Camaro. :) Questions and Answers Q: I guess this is more of a comment than anything. I've seen a lot of your builds and I absolutely love the Black ZL-1 with the Gold stripes. Dec-05-14 A: Thanks I do also. but. Black is just so hard to keep clean. My other Favorite color is LeMans Blue. Beautiful Color and Easy to keep clean. Plus Women "Love" LeMans Blue. Like we all Know. If the Wife’s Not Happy. Nobody's Happy. lol Q: do you upgrade the chasis and suspension. elative to the orginials. on the ZL1s you build. thanks richard Dec-05-14 A: Yes the parts we use are Better than what was in Original. Plus the Shocks I use are a lot Better than in 1969. This make for a Better and Smother Ride with no rattles. Plus Cornering and Braking is a lot Better. :) We also do Custom Suspension's. Q: What's the chances of you being able to build a convertible ZL-1 Camaro?A: There has been talk that Chevy did build a "ZL-1 Camaro Convertible". It was for a Engineer that worked on the ZL-1 Project in 1969. So Yes I would build a ZL-1 Convertible. That would be a Cool Camaro Build. :) Q: Hi. my name is Robert and I have been viewing your camaros. I would be interested in a car with the ZL1 motor. ot too crazy of a cam. 4spd. 3. 55 gears. ps. d front brakes. tilt wheel. S package like the blue one on E bay in texas. I am not sure how your auction works. idding on a car that is not built?How much for a car of that nuture? also. ow long to build? money down etc. I am trying to decide weather to buy a original car(ss. 96cid etc) verses a replica. Thanks and look forward to hearing from you. Robert. I will try to call you monday. Dec-06-14 A: Hello Robert. I did build the Blue and White ZL-1 out of Texas. That is a Cool Camaro. :) Lots of Questions. The Difference would be that My Camaros are Built to "Your Colors and Your Specifications". It's like “Going Back in Time” to Order the “Exact” Camaro you want from Chevrolet. Except. Mine are Better Built and More Street-able. Best to give me a call Q: Do you do anything with 1971 Camaros? Dec-06-14 A: Yes I do. I am Building a 1970 ZL-1 Camaro now. Please look at me E-Bay add 160938743178 for Pictures Ask seller a question Q: I have a question. I have a 2008 Harley Davidson fatboy with 3000 miles on it. Do you take bikes in on trade? Todd Longmont ColoradoA: Good Morning. Bring it by my shop and we can see what we can do on the Bike. We did Build a lot of Custom Harley's thru my Shop and they were in Magazines. So I do Love Harley's. Spencer 303-808-909614 Q: Do you guys build any LS powered 1969 Camaros? What would you charge to build a simple LS powered 5 or 6 speed with vintage air? Thank you. TimA: Hello Tim. Yes we have Done LS Motors in Camaros. Give me a call and we can talk price. Q: So what do I get if I bid 45 grand?? just curious. A good friend of mine. Jerry Mcneisch from Eldersburg had nothing but nice things to say about you. You do beautiful work! and you supply the 69 Camaro. But still what does 45grand get me. thanks. and thanks for building these fantastic classics with the best motors $$$ can buy. Dec-08-14 A: If you bid 45 K. You get a Message that says “Reserve Not Met” Bid Again. :) Sorry . I had to say it. Good Morning and Thanks Jerry is a Great Camaro Historian. I have read his Books Cover to Cover. Lots of Info and Pictures. I do have close to $20. 00. 00 in my "Special ZL-1 427 Motors". Give me a call and we can talk Prices and Options Q: Spencer. this is by far the coolest information I have read for a long time. What I am interested in is the Blue car you built with the "dealer" stripes. As I understand there was a car like this a 1969 RS ZL-1 Blue/white vinyl top sent/sold to Canada. Do you know if the car you replicated is that car? I also see a very beautiful one with the odd stripes for sale in Texas. Is this the car you built? Thank you for the awesome detail and information about these special cars. Dec-08-14 A: Hello and Thanks. Yes I built the Blue ZL-1 Camaro with Dealer Stripes off of the Specs of the Original. That is a Unique ZL-1 and they have Brochures and ERTL models of that ZL-1 for sale on E-Bay. The ZL-1 I built is the one in Texas. That was a One Owner Camaro I used to Replicate that Very Special ZL-1 Camaro. I started with a Real Nice Body on that Camaro. That Camaro is one of my “Favorite ZL-1s” that I have Built. :) Q: How far are you from Denver? Do you have any cars in your shop that I can see? I have a trip planned to Denver. Thanks Larry A: Hello Larry I am about 30 minutes out of Denver. I have 3 ZL-1s. and 2 Big Block Convertibles. and 1 1970 Camaro Anniversary 427 ZL-1 you can look at when you Come to the Shop. Just call me with a date you will be at my Shop. Q: hi. how much would lets say. the blue one cost to build? same way but black. red interior. no stripes?? ZL1. ?? A: Hello. I built a Black Yenko with Red Yenko Stripes and Red Interior. That Yenko at Car Shows always Drew a Large Crowd! Stunning Color Combination. Just call me for prices.

• Make: Chevrolet
• Model: Camaro
• SubModel: ZL-1
• Type: Coupe
• Trim: ZL-1
• Year: 1969
• Mileage: 0
• VIN: 12437XXX
• Color: Black
• Engine size: 8
• Transmission: Manual
• Drive type: Gasoline
• Interior color: Black
• Vehicle Title: Clear
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